After 4 similar pairs of Dunham shoes, 3 of those the mid & low cut Cloud in brown, there is no other shoe for me, so far to buy. The roll bar / nylon shank / firm sole / black not grey strip sole, plus fits like a glove, is all I need for everyday use. Any middle age/senior male would or should like this shoe. Hopefully, it stays in production & if made in the USA someday, even better.